I think I know the charity you are talking about. I thought they had stopped raising money?

Commented Michelle in La Marina 2012-11-06 17:32:13 UTC

Well my comment went, my fault.
There not a Charity they are people who took advantage of another two people who have been fundraising for years.
Now people have finally realised what's gone on.

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 17:36:34 UTC

Obviously you do not wish to name the Charities or persons on this Forum,But I would think the first thing to do is either talk to someone working on or with these charities,telling them what you know and asking them if they have an explanation.On either getting their answer and not believing it,or them refusing to answer without a valid excuse,you could then take things further,i would suggest in the first instance to pop into the council offices on the Urb.they should be able to find out what your next legal step should be

Commented Alan in La Marina 2012-11-06 17:42:24 UTC


What's your email

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 17:43:20 UTC


Sammybubbles can't go to the town hall as the so called Charity (illegal) has stated on this forum that they have the full backing of San Fulgencio council.

Commented Andi in La Marina less than a minute

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 18:19:39 UTC

Sammybubbles, is it just their word that you are taking regarding having the full support of the council? I think you should go and see someone in Jeff's office and talk to them about it as I'm sure they wouldn't condone an illegal charity!

Commented angiesayers27 in La Marina 2012-11-06 18:48:56 UTC

can i first of all ask you what charity you think i am talking about as it would be great to find out who you all think and then secondly the question was do you think it right that the people are allowed to continue to do this and yes i am aware that these people involved do think that they should be allowed to be untouchable because of all the good work they have or are suppose to be doing? but at the end of the day theft is theft and fraud is fraud isnt it ? thats my point

Commented sammysbubbles in La Marina 2012-11-06 18:53:11 UTC

have sent pm message to you via other forum with e-mail address

Commented Alan in La Marina 2012-11-06 18:53:41 UTC

Don't want to name it on here but you can email me at [email protected]

Commented angiesayers27 in La Marina 2012-11-06 18:58:08 UTC

Nothing to be afraid of. Are you referring to a group called K2A. If its not them then I apologise.

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:00:12 UTC

i know for a fact as i have a photo that was posted to face book yesterday to one of the people involved and i know this is not going to be a popular subject but i just wanted the view as to what people do think is or isn't right as i have also read in the RTN that this charity is already getting scammed and i just seriously wanted to know why these people are allowed to dominate there status in this way are they so invincible and if so why i just don't understand wrong is wrong isn't it or do we sit and allow things to slide by in the name of CHARITY and all be made to look fools of just the same as the recent revelations with a uk celeb and his so called good charity deeds

Commented sammysbubbles in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:02:25 UTC

Post the link then

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:04:05 UTC

No Andi its not K2A at all i do know for a fact that these people were trying to do the right thing though with full uk social workers support and a very good team behind them including a good legal team and no i am not a part of K2A but the people i am talking about are also the people responsible for many very naughty things like i stated at the start that's my interest getting a very public opinion to the questions i asked at the start

Commented sammysbubbles in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:07:26 UTC

Well all I can suggest is you posting what has gone on. As you know there are many Charities in San Fulgencio.
My apologies go to K2A.

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:09:24 UTC

you cannot expect other people to name certain charities or people concerned with them,when you ,quite rightly refused to do so.
If they want to name people or charities that is their preogative,you cannot ask them to do what you refused to do in the first place.
Personally i justvwish we had a break from bar noise and supposed dodgy charities,because it is making my head hurt.i can manage one But def. cant do both at same time

Commented Alan in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:10:41 UTC

Sammysbubbles, if you are going to make accusations about people raising money for charity then, in fairness to all the rest of us who raise money, legally, for our given Charities, you should name these people, if you have absolute proof. I held a Dinner & Dance last week for S.A.T and before expenses, i.e Buying raffle prizes, I raised 1,000 euros. I know you are not referring to me, but do the people who came and supported me, know this. You are hardly being fair to genuine fundraisers and you could stop people doing this, so you have gone this far, I think you should go the whole hog. There are a lot of people on La Marina who give their time and effort helping local charities and they don't need this sort of problems. I understand you are acting with the best of intentions but, you have to realise, by not speaking out you could be putting other people under suspicion. It is not my intention to upset you in anyway, but, you have to understand how other people may be feeling.

Commented Caroline in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:13:50 UTC

i will add two paper clips though when someone would answer the questions is it right or acceptable to host events in the good name of one charity and knowing full well that the money will not be given to that charity be given to another one instead and is it acceptable to tell the people that are fundraising they can take a percentage out of the taking for there troubles

Commented sammysbubbles in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:13:59 UTC

Well the only people or charity to hold an event in past couple of weeks is Eve with that great dinner dance, but all the proceeds go to the kennels and SATS.
There are also Charities that raise money and can donate to anyone. Like the show groups they raise money and then decide how to distribute it.

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:18:12 UTC

You need to say who you are talking about sammysbubbles or people are going to read allsorts into it and it could cause lots of trouble

Commented angiesayers27 in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:27:35 UTC

Sammys bubbles of course it isn't right but you don't need me or anyone else to tell you that, you know that yourself. But there are Charities for Charities and they can donate monies to what charities they choose. You have obviously got a Bee in your bonnet about this. But don't use us legal charities as your whipping boys. Go and see Jeff in his office and tell him how you feel and get it sorted. If you know there is something fishy going on then do something about it but, be absolutely sure of your facts and if you know you are right then have no compunction about naming and shaming them.

Commented Caroline in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:36:26 UTC

No problems the charity i am defending is Emaus are you on this forum all aware that they do not and are not a part of the Elche children home any longer and that the groupo castillio is funding the home please read this article to confirm this
now whilst bills are now all being paid etc the children are been fed and anyone wishing to clarify this should ask the director Sara Garcia and yes the director does say they still would like donations to carry on coming in and i would not wish for any child in that home to go without anything but the fact is this Emaus are seriously struggling with the other homes they are still funding and they are even being ripped off by con men and women please read this article as this will now prove this part of my fact too
now i ask you all is it acceptable for people to lie and arrange events in the Emaus name and then give whats left out of the funds after there percentage has been taken and give the money to an none Emaus organisation that is already been funded knowing full well they are coning people under the emaus name to give there hard earned money and for it not to get to the emaus charity and to be allowed to continue to arrange events in the emaus name and such is this right or is this fraud

Commented sammysbubbles in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:37:14 UTC

eve i am not whipping anyone i just want to know why i also do more than my fair share for emaus charity and i am getting sick and fed up with been told that the emaus money is not going to them but the good name of emaus is still banded in there event planning as they know its the emaus name that is needed but in fact emaus give nothing and the fund raisers involved think that this is acceptable when i have already proven that this is fraudulent emaus do not support the home and yes i do have photographic evidence and also a web blog showing this is still going on this is just not right but because of the people involved on one wants to make them stand and be accounted why they think its acceptable to steal funds that should go to emaus as well as taking there own part out of the funds

Commented sammysbubbles in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:45:11 UTC

You really are confusing. After speaking to Sara myself many a time. Yes they have been taking over by a foundation blah blah. If you actually look at there tins and so on it says EMAUS Children's homes. So that means when th ere tins are collected and counted the funds are put in the EMAUS bank account. In fact any donation giving to them is received with a certificate.
Yes Sara still needs help with the the children and just because it does not fall under EMAUS it is still one of the local children's home to San Fulgencio.
. All charities need help and more and this kind of talk destroys people's faith.
Why don't you post the links to the Facebook and so on because what you are stating is just what your saying and thinking sammybubbles

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 19:46:46 UTC

that's a very silly attitude andi to a very serious problem the money from events thats are still been held in the name of emaus are Not going into the Emause accounts and that emaus do not allow there fundraisers to get any part of the funds raised either this has also been confirmed via email like i said i don't begrudge the home in elche anything but surely when its not done in its own name under its own banner then this is surely a problem of defrauding people who may otherwise like to make an informed choice as there items or cash been donated and the coffers it should end up in
so are you actually defending stealing money donated under the emaus name and giving it to another charity that is already funded and i have had an email from sara garcia myself stating that any money that goes to the home is placed into the Baix Vinaloop account not into any emaus account as the elche childrens home has no emaus accounting and i would welcome anyone to email sara garcia as to this fact as it is not a part of the emaus group and the tins with emaus should all also be recalled as again it is defrauding emaus
at the end of the day people should not be allowed to band the emaus name around when they themselves are struggling to raise funds and are having funds stolen from them under there name and this should not be acceptable
And sorry alan i can not find your email message you have sent to me

Commented sammysbubbles in La Marina 2012-11-06 20:12:19 UTC

No I'm not defending anything to do with taking money. Not one bit.
If you read past posts by myself I've actually warned people who state there holding fundraisers in aid of EMAUS children's home are doing it on false pretensions as the name changed in mid August from EMAUS to the foundation. I did state here that they can't raise funds using EMAUS name for this home. So when it comes to you saying stuff about me saying its ok to do that then your wrong. I understand what your saying because I've said it on this forum in September

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 20:17:31 UTC

O.K. sammysbubbles I now understand where you are coming from.I will give you my thoughts.I am a person who regulary gives to charities,I admire people people who work tirelessly for little or no reward,I personally give to Charitable causes concerning help to human being,i have nothing against animal charities,but have onlt a set amunt each month to donate.I believe EMAUS stopped supporting the Elche childrens home several months ago,From that moment I had to decide where my money went,I thought that as the Childrens Home was going to get less donations my money would go there,I sent an e-mail to someone working for the childrens home to explain to me what was going to happen,they explained about the extra two years that kids could stay in the home and in that time learn about the outside world including getting work experience,as when these kids became of age to leave the home they were either sent back to the parents they were actually taken from for protection or leftv to fend for themselves,I thought this was commendable.At the beginning of becomingK2A (Kids to Adults)Iwas always wary,that vice versa to what you was saying was true,in fact I felt that some of the money i gave was still going to EMASUS and not K2A,so i have always made the point of asking where the money was going.I felt sometimes that I wasnt quite sure if K2A was a charity,so stopped giving donations until i felt sure one way or another.I have not donated to them now for a couple of months,,but as soon as i feel that that everything is kosher,i will start
donating again.So really it isnt all like you think but sometimes quite the opposite

Commented Alan in La Marina 2012-11-06 20:20:08 UTC


If you want to donate some money to the Altea children's home EMAUS Alan come to the shop talk to Kate or Christine as we have a huge toy delivered going to Altea on the 14th of November.
If you want it to go to the Children's home in Elche then pop in to the shop by the grey area and speak to Christine as there are a few of them off to the Elche home next week to have a meeting with Sara. So either way you know what you are giving will get to where it's intended

Commented Andi in La Marina 2012-11-06 20:25:29 UTC

Thanks for that Info andi,As much as i would love to go to the Elche home,I always get too involved in what i see,But I will pop into one of the shop early next week and leave a donation and perhaps one of the women could take it for me

Commented Alan in La Marina 2012-11-06 20:36:44 UTC